Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: Welcome to Born Again Baddies. We're so excited to have you here again with us. Today. We are going to be talking about relationship and friendship and what that looks like in your walk with God. So join us. Don't forget to follow, like and subscribe. And if you are posting anything of watching our episode, tag us so we can see and share that as well.
[00:00:24] Speaker A: Dear Lord, we want to come to you today and thank you for another opportunity to record another episode of the podcast today. We specifically want to pray around the theme of friendship and that you would provide friendships that we're going to talk about to our listeners and help them grow in the relationships that they already have in their lives and the ones that they have yet to know that they're going to have.
We would like to pray for my neighbor that last week ended up losing her husband very suddenly. And we just pray for her peace and her comfort with her and her daughter and that they would know your peace beyond all understanding and that you would be with them during this dark time. We also pray for Vanessa's friend Donna, who is battling uterine cancer.
We would like you to just cover her with all of your healing and your power and lift her up while she fights this battle of cancer.
We would like to bless this space, bless everybody in this space.
And me and Vanessa would like to ask for the power to glorify your word as best we can and that you would speak through us and that we would be your vessel in all these things. We pray in Jesus's name. Amen.
[00:01:44] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:01:45] Speaker A: Hello.
[00:01:46] Speaker B: Hi. How you doing?
[00:01:47] Speaker A: Good. Are you ready for episode three?
[00:01:49] Speaker B: We're here. We're doing it.
[00:01:51] Speaker A: We're doing it.
[00:01:51] Speaker B: We're doing it again. I'm super excited.
[00:01:53] Speaker A: Yeah, this is going to be a fun one today because we get to talk about a little bit more light hearted subject than the last two episodes. And today we're going to be talking about relationship and friendship specifically and what those look like in a godly sense.
[00:02:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
Let's get started.
[00:02:12] Speaker A: Let's go.
[00:02:13] Speaker B: I think the scripture is full of examples of what a godly friendship looks like. God tells us over and over again to love each other, each other and demonstrates that for us. I know that you had some scripture you want to share.
[00:02:26] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I definitely did.
So as I was going through scripture and trying to like find places in scripture that stuck out to me about friendship was the story of David. Well, it's Samuel 1, but the story of David and Jonathan, which a little backstory I won't Go all into it. But pretty much King Saul, which was Jonathan's father, became jealous of David, and Jonathan's friendship and more admiration started coming on to David than King Saul liked. And so he actually planned to have him killed.
And Jonathan actually ended up keeping his friends safe in the wilderness and making sure that he was okay. And actually, like, risked his own relationship with his father, risked his reputation, and risked everything for his friend.
Some really, like, sweet key points of that that I took from that story.
You must be willing to take risks and be able to make some sacrifices for your friendships and relationships.
Um, we have to be willing to shoulder the burdens and get out of our own comfort zones. When we have friends that were in need and that are in dark places, whether that be emotional or financial or just being there physically for them, that can be an example.
Oh, and the kind of. The idea of something I wanted to talk about, we can dive in deeper to it is the chords of three how it's you, your friendship or the person you're in a relationship with. And God all being a three unit cord.
[00:04:21] Speaker B: I love that.
[00:04:21] Speaker A: And the success that that brings to relationships. So that's kind of the first one I want to talk about. And then we can get more into other ones that I pick through and that you pick through as well.
[00:04:32] Speaker B: I love that story. I think there's so much to unpack there. And again, just huge examples of how we should be in relationship with each other. I love that we don't ever plan this out. We're just having a conversation happen to be on camera. And I didn't know you were going to share that. One of the pieces of scripture that I had grabbed is Proverbs 18:24. A man who has friends must himself be friendly. But there is a friend who sticks closer than a brother. I think that's so applicable there. I mean, he risks, like he said, the wrath of his father of breaking that relationship and much more implications because of the role he had in that time in his seat of power. So that was a huge thing that he did for his friend. But there's a deepness and a vulnerability when we're in relationship with others that is supposed to be there. It's inherently part of that relationship. And you're choosing that. We don't get to choose who we're in family with. Right. But we get to choose who we open ourselves up to in friendship, which is part of why that's such an important thing and why we have to be so intentional with that. So I love that it's such a great story.
[00:05:40] Speaker A: One thing that was really special and stuck out in that story to me too was they made a covenant in front of God almost like a marriage for their friendship. Like, how heavy is that? That they, they made a vow to each other that their friendship was going to come before anything.
You just don't see that a lot in today's culture at all. And obviously in, in that time, things have changed thousands of years ago, but it's something I don't think we need to like, do like blood brothers and sisters anymore. But I don't know, it's like kind of, I feel like in our friendship that's kind of an unsaid rule. Like, yeah, I don't know that we've ever been like, we're making a covenant to each other, but.
[00:06:22] Speaker B: And things have changed. Right. And we're, we're shown and told that let your word be your word to not swear and that you don't need to do that. Like, my loyalty and my friendship to you is love. It's based out of love. So it's going to supersede any shallow discrepancies that would otherwise make me turn the other way or give up on our friendship or give up on you as a woman and as my friend. Like, I've made that commitment to you and vice versa. Like, we're, we're in it. We're soul sisters. It's a God based friendship. And that's no light thing. That's really special. That's an honor to be a part of.
[00:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
Do you want to. You're just really good at talking about this.
Do you want to talk about the chords of three a little bit and kind of explain to people what that is and how they can implement them?
[00:07:12] Speaker B: Oh, so good. Ecclesiastes 4:12. Though one may be overpowered by another, two can withstand him. And a threefold cord is not quickly broken.
Oh, that's such a good scripture.
[00:07:27] Speaker A: Yeah. I think for friendship and marriage, those both really, really are just profound.
[00:07:34] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely.
Oh, it's so good. You know, we're made in God's image and he is a relational God.
So it's no surprise that we are literally by design, by his reflection, meant to be in relationship. And three being such a holy and powerful number. Right. With the Holy Spirit, the Father, the Son, and then any relationship we enter with God is the foundation.
It was a kids movie like Boss Baby. And talk about, you're like, whatever, I'm a mom. So. Okay, Boss Baby, like right in the beginning, they're like, triangle is the most powerful shape. Right. And that's true. The triangle is the most powerful shape. And even in science or any. Any way you want to approach this relationship with God, you look at a basic shape and the foundation of it being you, somebody else, and the pinnacle.
[00:08:25] Speaker A: Well, and then it goes back around to the Trinity.
[00:08:27] Speaker B: Yeah, no, absolutely.
[00:08:29] Speaker A: It's just there's so current many Easter eggs in scripture like that that are just like, you can't explain away.
[00:08:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:36] Speaker A: And I love it.
[00:08:36] Speaker B: I do too.
[00:08:37] Speaker A: It's so exciting.
[00:08:38] Speaker B: Good. So that, that, you know, like you said, it's such a powerful scripture and really shows the importance two people are always going to be flawed. It's human error. We're going to make mistakes. We're going to do our best to represent and reflect a biblical relationship and love each other and forgive each other and have patience and kindness and all the fruitfulness of the Spirit. But without God, that's all null and void. We're going to fall flat without him every time.
So just. Yeah, that's a great scripture you chose. I love that.
[00:09:10] Speaker A: Well, and it just like reminds me to have some depth to your friendships too. I think we all. And like, even me. And you still have friendships like these where you have people that aren't walking with God and you still love them and you still want to hang out with them and stuff. But the relationship is very surface level.
And I think it's important not to jump down people's throat or anything, but just to give those little nudges, you know, and to. To kind of guide that relationship that way when you can.
Like, it's all great to talk about weather and sports and work drama and stuff, but. But I think for something to actually be fruitful, it has to have a layer of depth to it.
[00:09:50] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:09:52] Speaker A: So, yeah, that's something as I get older that I want to work on.
And I'm not saying like, oh, to heck with everyone else that doesn't believe and I can't hang out with them anymore. Cause there's no depth. I think it's just something that you need to be strong and lead the way in and you need to drive that car in that relationship of going that direction or else it just won't, you know, and it'll kind of fizzle out and become stagnant if you keep growing and the other person doesn't.
So you have to be bold in that.
[00:10:23] Speaker B: There's a lot of scripture supporting that as well, especially in proverbs for anybody that wants to dive into that. You know, we want to reflect Jesus's love for people. We want to invite everybody to our table, and I've got a seat at my table for everyone.
But there also is a point when there's, you know, that you need to steer clear from people as well. Like, if you've extended the olive branch, if you've tried to be the light on the hill for them, the salt and light of the earth, and they're distracting you or pulling you away from your walk with God, then at that point, you do need to cut ties. And, you know, we've kind of glanced off that before. That's painful. Those friendship losses hurt.
But ultimately, all we can do is do our best to be a reflection of that love and acceptance and goodness that God pours into us. Right. Like, that's the reason we're able to be that. I know I'm a piece of crap without Jesus. Like, the person I was before Jesus. Piece of crap.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:25] Speaker B: Today still piece of crap. Still kind of a piece of crap. I gotta come back to Jesus and be like, give me some more of that of you. I need more of you.
[00:11:33] Speaker A: And that's daily.
[00:11:34] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. Oh, yeah. Like, yeah.
[00:11:37] Speaker A: Literally, this is real talk right now. On the way here, a guy pulled out in front of me, and I was thinking, really? Not PG 13 thoughts.
[00:11:45] Speaker B: You're praying my salvation.
[00:11:46] Speaker A: And that's on the way here.
[00:11:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:48] Speaker A: You know what I mean? So it's not like, yeah, it's a. Everyday.
You have to be aware of it and say, no, I want to be better. Jesus, make me better. Please, Lord, make me better. It's not just like a, oh, I did it one time in smooth sailing.
[00:12:02] Speaker B: Right.
[00:12:02] Speaker A: Like, we're here doing a Christian podcast and dealing with stuff like that every single day.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: Flawed humans. And that's what this podcast is, right? Like, it's us being real and bridging that gap with Christianity to where, you know, we made an incredible decision. We are no longer who we were. We are dead to our old selves. That does not mean we're saints.
[00:12:22] Speaker A: May I say we're born again baddies.
[00:12:25] Speaker B: Yes. Amen.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: Amen.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: It's the most beautiful journey, but, yeah, we have to open that door and let people be raw and real and vulnerable and to bring that back to friendship. That is. That's a foundation. Right. Is that vulnerability and goes both ways. You need to be able to just be real and say, this is what I did today.
And on the other side of that friendship, you need to be able to say, okay, well, in this part of scripture, it says, this is who we need to be. And call friends out, too. If you. If you're a true friend, you can call out your friends.
And if you're a true friend, you can receive that criticism as well. If you're walking on eggshells, you can't call somebody out. Or if you're so, you know, defensive, hearing something that you're doing wrong from a friend, like, that's. That's not rooted where it needs to be, and it's not real, and it's not what you need in your life. Right. Like, I've had plenty of seasons where I surrounded myself with people that enabled me and let me do the things that felt good, that were fun, you know, living for the flesh.
[00:13:31] Speaker A: Absolutely.
One thing, too, when I was doing my little studying, it's okay to. If you're in a friendship right now that isn't rooted in anything that is godly, start praying about it and see kind of what happens. Just because it isn't right now doesn't mean that it won't be.
And so it's really important to, even if you think somebody is a lost cause, pray for them and pray for your friendship with them, because it's insane. Like, just the way that God moves things.
And like we said in our last episodes, it might not be in the time that you want it to be, but do it anyway.
[00:14:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:09] Speaker A: You know, and it might not even. Maybe when you pray for them, it won't do anything for your friendship, but it'll do something for their next friendship.
[00:14:15] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:14:16] Speaker A: And that's what matters.
Yeah. So I think that's just really important. Like, don't ever just assume something or somebody is a lost cause.
[00:14:23] Speaker B: Right. I got so excited hearing you say that. A couple things. Real friends pray for each other, and like you said, you don't know what's going to come of that. Maybe it's your own heart, maybe it's clarity that you need to step away from that. Maybe it's intercession by the Holy Spirit of this is what you need to pray for.
Maybe it's compassion, whatever it is. Ultimately, though, you also can't own somebody else's walk with God. And I've been in that before where I want to own it. Right. Like, I'm. Like, I'm the only person speaking life and being a good example in this friendship. Right. Like, I want to speak light. I want to be that person for them. They're one Christian friend.
But ultimately that's still between them and God. It's not up to you. You can pray, you can be a great friend. You can show them what love and compassion and, you know, genuine friendship looks like, but don't own it. Do what you can. Be a good friend and then let God do the work. That's all we have to be is vessels.
[00:15:21] Speaker A: Just be available.
I want to kind of round back to.
I went to Vanessa's house, what was it, two, three days ago?
And I just think this is really important to talk about because the vulnerability of it. And we were talking about the podcast and kind of talking about this episode, what we're going to talk about.
And Vanessa had said that she was feeling like a hypocritical Christian because she had been so busy not diving into the Word and not prepping for the podcast episode like she had envisioned herself doing.
And I brought, this is just important in friendships. I listened to her, and I understood that she was disappointed in herself, but I also reminded her that she was human to dust herself off and get back up again and that, you know, we would let guide or let God let God guide the podcast, how it needed to go. And. And I think the insecurity came from preaching, but not feeling like you were doing. Yeah, right.
And I just felt like that interaction was so good. And then I forget what I said, you might remember. And we kind of went back and forth, and it was like I. You were down and I picked you up, and then I was down about something and you picked me up, and it was just a beautiful interaction.
[00:16:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: And we were just out on the back porch hanging out.
[00:16:37] Speaker B: I don't remember exactly what it was either. It was something kind of similar for you where you weren't diving in as deep because of kind of the mental season that you're in, not wanting to be convicted like that. And I told you going through the.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: Depressive episode, that that's the enemy trying.
[00:16:53] Speaker B: To keep you from whatever blessing lies in scripture in your relationship with Jesus. Right. Because his name is greater than any anxiety, any depression, anything that the enemy wants to hold you down with. And it was, no, I left. You know, that's godly friendship right there. Calling each other out and, you know, bringing each other back to the root, to the foundation, speaking life into each other, speaking encouragement, like you said, just hearing each other. You don't always have to have the answer. Sometimes you just need to be there for somebody, be the vessel.
[00:17:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm like, I hear what you're saying, but also that's not you.
[00:17:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:26] Speaker A: Like, get out of the pity party.
[00:17:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:28] Speaker A: And. And you'll get it done.
[00:17:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:30] Speaker A: You always do. Yeah.
[00:17:31] Speaker B: Last day procrastinator.
But, yeah.
[00:17:34] Speaker A: It's how it goes, though. And we're not perfect. And I think that's what this podcast is all about, is we are so not perfect.
[00:17:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:42] Speaker A: But look. Look at what God's doing for us.
[00:17:45] Speaker B: Amen. And that, if you can believe people like you and I. Right. People that are so flawed, that don't have it together, just doing our best one day at a time, and can use us to speak life into people, speak hope into people, share our stories, and help somebody out of a dark chapter in their own word.
Wow.
[00:18:04] Speaker A: We're here for it.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: Yeah. We're here for it. Not worthy. But he uses us anyway. He calls us worthy.
[00:18:10] Speaker A: Yeah. What did you post on the Instagram? Do you remember? It was so perfect.
[00:18:15] Speaker B: It was so good.
Hold, please.
[00:18:17] Speaker A: Hold, please. We must pull up. Yeah, no, this was because it was so good.
[00:18:21] Speaker B: It was definitely brought.
Brought for a reason. It says, God is going to send you places you don't feel qualified to go.
God doesn't call the qualified. He qualifies the call.
Like, thank you.
[00:18:33] Speaker A: That's what we. And that's what we were talking about that night, because we're both like, wow, we're just so not cut out for the job. Right. I. If you would have told me when I was little that, like, I would have anything to do with discipleship, I would be like, ma' am. What? Like, no, me.
[00:18:50] Speaker B: Right.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: Like, I. Sometimes I'm, like, checking my pulse. What? Like, it's so weird.
[00:18:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: I'm so grateful for it, but it's. It's insane. I never thought. Especially when I was young and shy, never thought that God would use me in this way.
[00:19:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
Insane.
[00:19:06] Speaker A: And yet he is. And it's only because of our friendship.
[00:19:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
God is so good.
[00:19:10] Speaker A: I know. I know. It makes me want to cry. It's so insane. I don't. I literally don't even know how he came up with this podcast, by the way. How is this happening?
[00:19:19] Speaker B: God waking me up at 2am and I was like, we should do a podcast.
[00:19:22] Speaker A: You're like, I. I'm like, full sin. Let's go.
[00:19:25] Speaker B: And.
And then the way everything pulled together, like, having connections with the studio and, like, God is just so good. Like, should we.
[00:19:35] Speaker A: Okay. I like to know stuff. I like to know background story. Do we want to give our listeners, like, a little nugget of how this came to be? Go off. Okay, so backstory. What year did you come to me to get your hair done?
[00:19:53] Speaker B: 2020. No, 2019. 2020.
[00:19:56] Speaker A: It had to be 2020. Okay, so it's 2020.
Vanessa has a green mullet.
No, but for real.
Vanessa comes to me. I do hair. You followed me on Instagram and that's how you saw it. She saw me do somebody else's hair, came to me because she. This is how the hair tragedy happened.
You went to a beauty school for a color correction that did not color correct?
[00:20:23] Speaker B: No, it went ahead and fried off.
[00:20:24] Speaker A: And it ended up. So when. And she always reminds me of this. Like, this is like, when she knew that I was her friend. I was looking at her hair and I didn't even know her. Like, we went to high school together, but I didn't know you. Like, I knew your name, but that was it.
And I'm like, so we have a mullet sitch, like. And you were just like, yes, you're my friend. That's all I needed to know.
[00:20:45] Speaker B: I remember, like, I was looking at you in your mirror, right? And I'm like, did you just say mullet situation?
We're gonna be best friends. Like, dude, that's what you need. Somebody who's gonna call it like it. I was dying. I'm like, this girl's real. Yeah. And then, of course, the trauma bonding that ensued. You know, we had so much synchronicity. Our dads.
[00:21:05] Speaker A: Yeah, we gotta talk about the dads for a second. Yeah. So my dad had just passed away, like, six months prior, maybe less.
And Vanessa's dad was in the process of. I wouldn't say he was dying, but he was.
His diabetes was really, really at the tail end of not goodness. And we were able to talk about that because you were kind of prep. Mentally prepping for losing him. And I had just lost mine.
And that was beautiful because that was a God given situation.
[00:21:38] Speaker B: It was. And I don't even do preparation for me.
[00:21:41] Speaker A: And did you even. I don't even think you knew the extent of my dad's situation. And then we just started talking about it and we were like, whoa. And then we started talking about, like, our moms and our childhoods, and we were just like, wow. Yeah, we have a lot in common. It's like, different, but the same. I can't really explain it. And it's God given.
[00:22:03] Speaker B: Yeah. All of the little things that had to pull together just perfectly for us to be introduced, for me to choose you. I mean, that's an hour drive to the salon. And I'm like, that's who I need to go to.
Like, there's Diamond Dozen. One special, one post in Boise. But I was like, I'm gonna go see Tara. And again, yeah. We're in different grades within the same very large high school. So, like, didn't know each other. There's no reason other than, like, God put on my heart. Like, I'm gonna go see this Terra tovar.
[00:22:35] Speaker A: Well. And it's just, like, so crazy, too, because just the way that you're placed in situations, too. It's like, yeah, we knew each other from high school, and, like, we were just of the era where even if you didn't know, people follow them just because, you know, you go to the same school. And it's like, how many. We had to follow each other on Facebook and Instagram for, like, 10 years to even have that moment happen.
[00:22:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:57] Speaker A: And it's just. Yeah. It's crazy to me because people ask me a lot. They're like, how do you and Vanessa even know each other? Like, I know. Like, were you guys friends in high school? And I'm like, no. Like, our friendship is fairly, I would say, new. It's not even five years old.
[00:23:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:09] Speaker A: It's like, maybe three. Three or four.
[00:23:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:13] Speaker A: And then. Yeah. And our relationship just kind of deepened behind the chair.
And then.
Yeah. I remember Vanessa, she, like, asked me, I think you asked me to go to your birthday party. And I was like, oh, wow. Like, she wants to hang out with me outside of the hair. Okay, cool. And then it just. I remember it just really took off. Then you got married. I was in your wedding.
Your baby Octavia was born. We did the mean. Our other friend Jayla did the baby shower.
And so it just really, really has deepened, and I'm just really grateful for it. So that's kind of like the backstory of how Bob came to be.
[00:23:49] Speaker B: I love it.
And God's so good. So intentional.
[00:23:54] Speaker A: Yeah. It's been such a blessing.
So amazing in that we're able to, like, live out what God has intended for us to do with each other.
Pretty cool.
Not a lot of people can say that. It's really special, holds a lot of weight.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: And then also, I feel like the more I think about it, there's just so many things going on. Again, that synchronicity in both of our lives. And one of the huge things was the changing of our friend circles. Right. And both of us were diving deeper into our relationship with God and being very intentional and praying about the right Friends, the right people to come into our lives, the right people to disciple alongside of and grow with. And bam, here we be.
[00:24:39] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know if we said this in my episode or your episode last time, but we. It was by. When we were behind the chair one time, we did the math and me and Vanessa were like up in the middle of the night praying the same prayer for friendship at almost the same month.
[00:24:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:55] Speaker A: Like, that's how close it came down to.
So that's how I know that it was an answered prayer. Like, there's just too many little, little things about it.
[00:25:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:04] Speaker A: And it's so awesome.
[00:25:05] Speaker B: So awesome.
[00:25:06] Speaker A: So grateful.
Okay. I want to go back to some.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: Scripture, you know, before we dive away from the first one. There was another piece. I got all excited. Love that you chose that.
There's another piece I wanted to talk about with that, and it was the tabling. And that's an idea that you have a meal with people. Right. And we kind of see that demonstrated all throughout the Bible in both the Old Testament and the New Testament. And it doesn't mean you need to always open your doors and have this Martha Stewart styled meal, but it's really important to share a meal with people, to just be open and vulnerable and sit at a table with somebody and get to know them. And I love that concept of tabling to grow in community and friendship within the church.
And if your home's not an option, go out somewhere. Just go out to a meal. You know me, I love, love opening my doors and having people over like that. It blesses me if I can bless somebody with a meal and get to hear their story and share a meal with them. Like, I'm, I'm getting the good end of the stick there. Like, I might be doing the cleaning and, and meal prep and all that stuff. And it is well worth it for what it does for my spirit to do that. And so that was another thing. Just to go to that first scripture you use with the, the tabling and sharing meals.
[00:26:30] Speaker A: I'm like, I haven't ever heard that term. That's interesting.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: I think I first heard that at Capitol Church.
Pastor Chris Wild did a message on tabling. And then they were pretty intentional after that that they had a bunch of little small groups that would do meals together. Different people would volunteer, you know, to do a group at their house and make a meal and share it with people. And I, I love that it's just such a base need to have food, but there's something intimate about it too. About sitting down with people.
[00:27:00] Speaker A: Think about the Last Supper. That was the last thing that Jesus did with his disciples.
[00:27:04] Speaker B: Broke bread. Yeah. And the, you know, the symbolism of that with his body and his blood and. Yeah. Doing that with each other, sharing a prayer.
[00:27:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:13] Speaker B: It's just. Yeah, it's pretty powerful thing. So that's a. It's a really cool aspect of friendship. And if you're trying to grow in friendship with people or.
Let's see.
I think we just had a barbecue, and we had a couple that I just met at church. Like, just talked with her and her mom for, like, 10 minutes, and it was this. It was this God thing. It was super powerful. She just had her first baby.
She's a nurse as well. Her newborn son's name is James, which is my dad's name. Like, there was. Again with the synchronicity and not to, like, spin out on all these tiny details, because when, you know. You know, like, it was just that day I woke up. I was having a hard time. I, like, scrambled into church late, and I just happened to get the only seats available at that time. Right. With her and her mom.
Anyway, we ended up having her and her husband over for a meal that next week. And it was just such a blessed, beautiful thing and a start of a great friendship again, because it was vulnerable and intimate and having them into our home, and we don't, you know, we don't have, like, a huge mansion on the hill. We have a beautiful, humble home that God blessed us with and is a safe, you know, safety space for me and my family. And because of that, I love to open it up to other people. He blessed me, so I want to bless other people, too, and make them deal with my cooking. And, you know, it's just. It's fun.
[00:28:38] Speaker A: So.
[00:28:39] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a fun little way for people to be really intentional and grow in friendship.
[00:28:43] Speaker A: Yeah. And I benefit a lot from Vanessa's cooking and whatnot, so I'm really blessed and grateful for it, too.
[00:28:50] Speaker B: I love it.
[00:28:52] Speaker A: That's something that I want to work on. I tend to get really stressed when I have people in my bubble. It's probably a little bit of the ocd. I just don't like.
I don't like people touching my stuff. I don't like them sitting on my stuff. I don't like them.
Yeah, I have a little bit of control issues about my stuff, so.
But that inspires me, hearing that and how much you get blessed from it as well, to start doing that. And I'm sure There's a lot of people that can resonate with, yeah, I love having my door's open and I love hosting. And then there's people like me that are like, dang. Like, it's really, really tough, but I know I need to do it.
[00:29:27] Speaker B: Applebee's will open their doors for you. Like, I'm like, let's go get coffee.
[00:29:33] Speaker A: Like, for real? Yeah, let's go do something that's not at my house. But.
[00:29:37] Speaker B: And it's that follow through. Right. I don't know. And I'm speaking to my own conviction here. Like, how many times do we say, let's grab coffee sometime? Like, if I would have actually followed up on the people at church that I was like, oh, my gosh, there's a cool little connection here. Maybe this is the start of a friendship. Let's go get coffee sometime. We might even exchange number.
Does that ever happen now? Like, yeah, we're super busy. Right. Like, there's a lot going on all the time. Two different schedules have to align. You might live on whatever. There's plenty of excuses, but you have to be intentional and make those things happen.
[00:30:16] Speaker A: Yep. I agree. Awesome reminder. Thanks, Vanessa, for sharing that.
Love it.
One little chunk of scripture kind of getting away from the David and Jonathan story now. But it's Samuel 18:1, and this just like, literally brought tears to my eyes. It says now when we. Now when he finished speaking to Saul. Oh, actually it still is. Just kidding. It's. It's David and Jonathan now. When he finished speaking to Saul, the soul of Jonathan was knit to the soul of David. And Jonathan loved him as he loved his own soul.
[00:30:53] Speaker B: That's beautiful.
[00:30:54] Speaker A: I had never read that until yesterday. And it just was like, like loving, like the sacrifice that that takes to love somebody like you love your own soul.
[00:31:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:05] Speaker A: That is literally a Jesus level love that is not easy for humans to do. I think it's easy maybe for their kids, their. Your pets, your spouse sometimes.
[00:31:16] Speaker B: Some days.
[00:31:18] Speaker A: Some days. But, you know, parents and stuff. But to love somebody like you love your own soul, like, that is the heaviest words ever spoken.
[00:31:28] Speaker B: Yeah. And I love that you use the word sacrifice. I think that love is sacrificial.
And since friendship is a byproduct of love.
Friendship is sacrificial. That's another one of the scriptures I grabbed.
John 15:13, Greater love has no one than this than to lay down one's life for his friends. And right before that, in John 15:12, Jesus tells us, this is my commandment that you love one Another, as I have loved you like the most perfectly unflawed demonstration of friendship. Because Jesus does call us as friends, you know, and he laid his life down for us. Sin and all his enemies, people who were beating and ridiculing him and he was still willing to sacrifice his life. So yeah, that, that word, sacrifice is so beautiful. That's what we need to be willing to do in friendship. And how many of us can truly say that what would we be willing to give for a friendship? Like, that's a really good.
[00:32:36] Speaker A: I think a lot, a lot of people look at, in like myself included. You'll look at friendship or you'll participate in friendship as long as it's convenient for your life. What do you bring to my life? You know what fun. But when it gets down to brass tacks and you're in the ugly with people, like when you lost your dad, situations like that. How many people?
Well, I don't know what to say, so I just didn't say anything. You don't need people like that when you're in the depths of it. You need people that are going to send you scripture and are gonna let you know that they're there for you every single day. Even if you don't reply.
[00:33:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:11] Speaker A: Or you're gonna have a missed call from them. Even if they. You didn't pick up. Right. And they don't give up because like some way, sometimes in, like this is the same in marriage too. It cannot be a two way street. Sometimes you have to pick up the slack on the other end of the relationship. And if you're not willing to do that, then I don't know how deep that friendship is.
[00:33:28] Speaker B: Yeah. You call those fair, weathered friends. Right. They're only there for the sunny days, the good times. And then things get hard and tap out because it's not fun, it's not the vibe.
[00:33:39] Speaker A: Well, and, and when you go through your hard time, do you want people like that? No, nobody wants people like that.
So there has to be that push and pull.
[00:33:47] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:33:49] Speaker A: In friendship it's very, it's super self sacrificial and it should be, you know, it really should be.
Another little chunk that I wrote down.
Pride and selfishness has no place in friendship.
[00:34:08] Speaker B: That's so good and so true. I think we have our template for friendship. I reference the fruitfulness of the spirit. We like calling it walking in the nine.
Right. And that's First Corinthians 13, 4, 7. Love suffers long and is kind.
Love does not envy, Love does not parade. Itself. It's not puffed up, does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil, does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth, bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
Like you said, that's not true love. It's not true friendship. If you're jealous of somebody, if you're insecure, if you're threatened by them, you know, that's. That's not love.
And that's not to say again that we're not flawed. Sometimes, you know, you can have a friend, a true friend that's doing that, does something amazing, and you're like, oh, I wish that was me. Like, you can covet that. That doesn't make that covetous. Okay.
But it's still human. You just need to take that thought captive and say, jesus, take this from me. Keep my heart soft. I want to champion this friend and pray it away. Pray it out of your own heart and pray for your friend, because you'll be blessed by that, too.
[00:35:30] Speaker A: Yep. Yeah.
[00:35:31] Speaker B: So I love that. You're right. It's not. Not jealous.
[00:35:34] Speaker A: I feel like, too. Especially in, like.
Like, women. Women with women friendships.
[00:35:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:40] Speaker A: It's a tough one.
[00:35:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:41] Speaker A: It's a really hard one.
Like, let's say you have a friend that's, like, killing it at the gym and they're losing weight, and you've been slacking and eating Twinkies, you know, and it's hard to, like, you want to hype her up and be like, yeah, you're doing awesome, but then at the same time, you're thinking, oh, gosh, yeah, well, that doesn't make me feel great about myself. But like you said, you got to nip that feeling, and you got to use it as fuel to better yourself. It's nothing that they're doing. They're living their best life, and you can't handle it because you don't feel worthy.
[00:36:12] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, another friend that I got in the same season of being connected with you, I told her that I had prayed for. For God to surround me with women that I was intimidated by. And she was like, what did you really. I really did. And she was an answer to that prayer where I was like, you intimidate me. Every base level of myself, every piece of the old Vanessa wants to be threatened by you, doesn't want to hang out with you because I don't feel quite as cute, don't feel as strong, don't feel as successful in every Way, like, she's rocking it. Right. So I was like, oh, it's threatening to be around her, but she makes me want to be better.
We don't need to surround ourselves with people that are complacent, that are okay with us being complacent. I want somebody that's going to champion me and I want somebody that's going to make me call myself out on those.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: Those horrible.
[00:37:11] Speaker B: Just dark emotions. Right. Like jealousy, insecurity. Any of that. Like, bring it to the light where it cannot exact exist. Bring it to the light where it cannot exist.
[00:37:26] Speaker A: But. Yeah, and those are hard. And I'm not saying that men don't have situations like that, but I think it's really, really prevalent in today's culture. Like the toxic.
Well, I can't be friends with her because she's prettier or more successful or, you know, she has everything I want, so I. You have to pretend she doesn't exist.
[00:37:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:46] Speaker A: I just think just as a culture, we need to get away from that. Yeah. It's not rooted in God. It's not. It's just that's. That's the enemy, that's Satan, just living in today's society. So we.
[00:37:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:58] Speaker A: I think as women, just need to all band together to fight that.
It's not good. And it's been going on far too long. That gross, competitive, nasty nature.
[00:38:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:09] Speaker A: That you see a lot, especially with the Internet world we live in and the.
The cyber bullying, I'll call it.
[00:38:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:17] Speaker A: I see grown women on Tick Tock and on Instagram, grown women bullying each other in comments.
[00:38:23] Speaker B: It's disgusting. And social media is. It's so toxic. If you're a listener and you're not on social media, you probably don't know about us.
You know, I have to take regular fasts.
[00:38:35] Speaker A: Yeah, you do.
[00:38:36] Speaker B: Theodore Roosevelt. That said, comparison is the thief of joy. And even though we have that logical part of our brain that's like, this isn't real, there's a filter. This, you know, everybody only shows the little glimpses of the good part. It still subconsciously affects us. We're still comparing ourselves to people all the time, to a younger, prettier, stronger, wealthier, whatever. There's always a better.
Some facet of our being. There's better. We're not just, you know, the top tier can't get any better than me in some way. You know, and so we have to be really rooted in our identity in Jesus. And that comes inherently with love, when we really have an identity in God. And see ourselves as a reflection of his image. We can't not love ourselves.
And I know for people like us that come from a background of trauma and just tough times, self love is a journey that takes some time. And until you begin to love yourself, you will be threatened by the better, better, better, whatever facet again that you're comparing yourself to. You will be threatened by that and steer away from that until you find your identity.
[00:39:52] Speaker A: Yep. Yeah, it's a journey. You have to, you know, fix yourself before you worry about other people are criticizing or glorifying or whatever for other people.
And. Yeah, and not something that I used to follow. Too bad with stuff like that was like, especially with the Internet, people like idol worship. Like, oh, this girl's my favorite influencer. I have to order everything that she sells. And I have to do my makeup and my eyelashes, how she has them, you know, like, that's just another like, woman, womanly type thing where you get obsessive and. Yeah. You just have to. Well, and be around friends too. That'll remind you. Hey, that's not. You snap out of it.
[00:40:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:31] Speaker A: You know, just not living for that. Not living for the Internet world or the regular world.
[00:40:35] Speaker B: Well, and there's a loneliness that goes with social media. We can have 10,000 friends and feel like we have a lot of friends, but you're sitting in your dark, damp room, you're doing your.
[00:40:50] Speaker A: Sick.
[00:40:50] Speaker B: You're doing your doom scroll.
[00:40:52] Speaker A: Right.
[00:40:52] Speaker B: Like it's not real.
And look, loneliness. What a phenomenon. Like, don't get me nerding out there. I talked recently with that presentation I did at the leadership conference about the correlation between social media use and suicidal ideation and that there's research that shows that loneliness is just as detrimental to our health as smoking and obesity. They liken it to smoking like a pack of cigarettes a day because of the physiological effects that loneliness has. And again, that ties back to what I said in the beginning about being a reflection of a relational God. We are created to be in community. We are created to be in relationship. So it's just. We need it. We don't need followers. We don't need any of that. We need people. We need life. We need wholesome, real IRL experiences.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: Exactly. Super, super important.
A great example when I was doing my studying was Ruth and Naomi's relationship.
I don't know if you have any so good. Any notes on that, but nope.
This is like, I just kind of wrote down key points that really stuck out to me. And we can expand upon them, but Another one that made me want to cry. And this reminded me of me and you a lot. It makes me want to cry.
I'm okay.
[00:42:19] Speaker B: I'm all just gonna hold my breath.
[00:42:21] Speaker A: It makes me have a lump in my throat.
It's okay. It's just because I love you and you mean a lot to me.
It says, where you go, I will go. Your people will be my people, and your God will be my God.
And it's just for a little backstory on that.
Naomi was widowed back then. To be widowed, you were kind of just like, used up trash, for lack of a better word. Like, oh, now she. Because, like, women back then, you didn't have your house and your property and your mules and stuff. That was all your husbands. And you were only. And you were only tied to it through your relationship with him. So she literally felt like she had nothing. And she was a Moabite. I believe so already. Like, not cool. You know, not. She was not popular. And her friend Ruth, when she went to leave and go back home after her husband died, she said, no, I'm gonna go with you. And that's what she told her. Where you go, I will go. Your people will become my people, and your God will be my God.
Like that, like, steadfastness. Like.
Like, I don't care what valley you're in, I'm by your side. Like, let's hit the road together. Pack up your stuff, let's go. And just insane. Beautiful example.
And then they both go back to Israel together.
Naomi, the widow, Ruth, the. The loyal friend, are out collecting grain. And Ruth meets Boaz, which is a family member of Naomi, and he gets known as the family redeemer, somebody that she could marry again to kind of getting good graces with the family and get obtained a living situation again and not just be like a homeless nothing widow.
And Ruth actually ends up marrying Boaz to. So that they can all kind of live and, like, be good again. And so that just, like, the extent of what she was willing to do with her friend.
[00:44:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:29] Speaker A: Is insane.
Like, in Boaz, you know, he's a good guy. I'm not saying, like, oh, she married some loser farmer or whatever. Like, he also had very good attributes about himself and that he wanted to help these women and redeem their names. And I think that's what. Maybe that's what Boaz means.
Like his. You know, how all the biblical. I think it might mean family redeemer.
[00:44:52] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:44:53] Speaker A: Don't quote me on that. I could be wrong. I'm not A Bible scholar, I always say this, but, you know, Jamie, again, like, fact check, just in my studying and I wrote this down. God places the people in your life in order to help you heal the things in your life. He weaves our stories together for good.
And then I said, mine and Vanessa have similar stories with the losses of our fathers. That's what stuck out to me.
Just that God, like before, before any of these people were born, he had already woven together a plan of how their life was going to go.
And they would have never guessed that one day just being out collecting grain, trying to survive for each other was going to change their whole situation into redemption, into beauty. And to have healing right after the most devastating loss of her husband.
And then Boaz and Ruth go on to have a little baby, too, and continue the family line. And just like, how special. Like, she. Obviously, her life didn't go how she wanted it to go, but God redeemed it.
[00:46:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:01] Speaker A: With the use of friends and relationships, husbands, wives, babies, all that. It was all woven together for her. Good.
[00:46:09] Speaker B: Yeah. So good.
[00:46:11] Speaker A: That story is just.
It's a really good one to read. Obviously, this is just like little key marks of it, but it's a powerful story and especially a powerful one for women. Friendships, like, just. Just a beautiful example.
And yeah, I hope that you're definitely a Ruth to me. And I hope that I'm a Ruth to you.
[00:46:31] Speaker B: You are.
Yeah.
[00:46:34] Speaker A: I think it's really special and it's something that we should all read and focus on. The Ruth and Naomi story.
Love it.
[00:46:44] Speaker B: I love it so much.
[00:46:47] Speaker A: Okay.
Moving forward, this was really important to me and I told you that it was. I don't know why.
Well, I know why. Because God wanted me to talk about it. Somebody listening today needs to hear about Ecclesiastes.
And so it haunted me for weeks and weeks and weeks, and it's been on my heart to share it. I get haunted by scriptures.
Is haunted bad?
[00:47:10] Speaker B: No. Yeah. It's not.
[00:47:11] Speaker A: God haunt me.
[00:47:12] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:47:15] Speaker A: I love it.
No, don't be like Tara.
[00:47:18] Speaker B: Scratch that from the record. Just kidding. Leave it.
[00:47:21] Speaker A: But yeah, so I need to talk about Ecclesiastes because I'm being called to. So Ecclesiastes 4, 9, 12. Two are better than one because they have good return for their labor. If either of them falls down, one can help the other up.
[00:47:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:37] Speaker A: Which we kind of already talked about. But that, man, that's important. Just the accountability for each other, steering each other, like I said, driving the car when you need to drive the car.
Yeah, just. That's perfect.
[00:47:54] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, the picture that. That paints, like, in symbolically, like, you fall down, you fall into a pit of self pity.
You're having a really hard time. You're in the middle of a storm. Nothing's going right.
You know, your eyes are not set on things above. You are focused on the pain and suffering and why me?
And again, that vision, that picture being there and somebody else leaning down and grabbing your hand and pulling you up, that is a godly friendship. That is what you need. Sometimes you can't get out of a pit, Right. If it's a slimy pit, you are stuck down in the bottom by yourself. You need somebody to. To pull you back up. And that is Jesus. That is the hand of Jesus. But we are vessels. Like this is. Again, he's a relational God. He will use us. So he will work through a friend, a good friend, to reach down and pull you up and speak life into you and encourage you and walk forward with you to have somebody by your side to keep you from stumbling, to lean on a little bit.
[00:49:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:49:01] Speaker B: It's such a good scripture.
[00:49:02] Speaker A: I didn't understand that when I was like, a really baby, baby Christian. I didn't understand, like, when people would say, oh, yeah, God's hand in this or whatever. I, for some reason could not comprehend the fact that God uses us as vessels. And now I'm like, oh, my gosh. God intercedes by using the Holy Spirit within us.
[00:49:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:23] Speaker A: And that might sound like, textbook to a lot of Christians, but people listening that don't know that are baby Christians. It's huge.
[00:49:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:30] Speaker A: That's how he is. Or like, like the God spoke to me or whatever. Like, when I say, like, the haunted thing, that's what I'm saying. Is God speaking to you. It's not like, like how we were like, vanessa, I'm here. Listen to me.
[00:49:43] Speaker B: Hello.
[00:49:43] Speaker A: Like, because like, you. You read like you watch Prince of Egypt when you're little and you're like, where's my burning bush?
[00:49:49] Speaker B: Right.
[00:49:49] Speaker A: What is this?
[00:49:50] Speaker B: I want theatrics.
[00:49:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. God, let's put on a show. But he uses us, right?
[00:49:55] Speaker B: He does. I think that's so important to touch on.
Yeah. Because I have those experiences all the time. Right. My husband is my witness to all these things where I'm like, oh.
Oh, my gosh. And I resist it a lot. Right. Because I've still got a foot in the world, and I'm worried about people. What are. What are they gonna say about me? Or how unhinged and Delulu do I look right now? Because I feel like I'm supposed to go pray for that woman and I'll sit there and I fight it. And I'm like, God, yeah, sure.
I really don't wanna. And I'm embarrassed and my cheeks are already flushing a little bit.
I'm like, okay, and I'll do it when I get blessed by it.
And if you don't, if you don't step out and get used as a vessel by God, he'll use somebody else.
That woman in this scenario that I just used, she needed a prayer. She needed life spoken into her. She needed that. And if I would have been completely closed off to that, like, no, God, I'd really like to, but there's some people watching me right there, and I just.
[00:51:07] Speaker A: I'm feeling insecure.
[00:51:08] Speaker B: No, thank you.
Like, I got the people of Walmart outfit on the messy bun. I don't really feel like making a spectacle today.
He'll use somebody else. Well, he might. It might not be the people right there. It might be a week later in Walmart. It might be some completely. We have no idea.
[00:51:27] Speaker A: But he will be faithful to the.
[00:51:28] Speaker B: Situation, to that situation situation and still use somebody. So be.
Be available, be willing. 10 times out of 10, you will be blessed. Like, you will walk away from that situation, buzzing from the Holy Spirit, knowing that this is what life's about. That the life you just spoke, the way that you just stepped out, being in connection and partnership with God, like that, that's what it's all about. And we get those little glimpses right when the veil is lifted and we're like, the. This is it.
And then 10 minutes later, we're like, God, you sure pick somebody else.
[00:52:02] Speaker A: Yeah, don't love it.
[00:52:03] Speaker B: Do it, do it. Get excited when God wants to use you. It's such an honor.
[00:52:07] Speaker A: Well, and like, it's like a natural high.
[00:52:10] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying.
[00:52:11] Speaker A: I don't know how else to put it.
[00:52:12] Speaker B: It is.
[00:52:12] Speaker A: But, like, when in my chair, that's when I do a lot of, like, my discipleship, when I can. That's my ministry is behind my chair. When I do hair and I don't do it to everyone, there's people that I know are not going to be receptive to it, and it's not the right time. But I listened to that inkling in my heart and I know, okay, the Spirit's telling me to tell this person whatever. And you get such a high from it. And, like, I Go home. And I'm like, babe, like, I helped somebody today.
[00:52:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:38] Speaker A: Like, I had this lady that's dealing with this, this, and this. And I told her this, and I. I sent her these Bible scriptures. And he's like, yeah, nice, babe. Like, good. But, like, you literally get, like, an endorphin, oxytocin release from it. It's insane.
[00:52:52] Speaker B: It is. It's amazing.
[00:52:53] Speaker A: I can see how, like, people that go out and evangelicalize in, like, Indian stuff, and they're themselves in major danger, which probably even heightens it even more. Like, when they have somebody that ends up coming around or that they can talk to about the word it is. It's indescribable. The, like, the little high you get from it. I don't know else to put it. No, that's what I'll say.
[00:53:17] Speaker B: I don't think we have to lean on the negative connotations of the word high like it is.
[00:53:22] Speaker A: It's just what it is.
[00:53:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:23] Speaker A: It's a natural high. It is kind of going off of what you're saying, too. It's really, really important to take initiative on making your relationships and taking them to a deeper level, because we do live in such a shallow culture.
Don't rely on other people to deepen it. You need to be the driver and deepen those relationships.
[00:53:47] Speaker B: So good. That vulnerability again. Oh, that's so good. That's a good reminder.
[00:53:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, super good.
It's just so important because you'll wait around all day if you're waiting for other people. You need to. You have the Holy Spirit. You have the power to intercede, and you need to do it. It's your responsibility. Right?
[00:54:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:05] Speaker A: Once, you know, once the veil's lifted and, you know, you can't pretend you.
[00:54:10] Speaker B: Don'T dive on in. Amen.
I know we're wrapping up our hour here, so there's just one that another piece of scripture I wanted to share.
Kind of going back to what we said about being able to call each other out and the difference between doing that from a godly lens versus just breaking people down. And I felt like I was led to this piece of scripture. It's Proverbs 27:6, and it says, faithful are the wounds, wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
And there's a lot of comparable verbiage in scripture and proverb that's saying that flattery is evil.
[00:54:57] Speaker A: Right.
[00:54:58] Speaker B: Like, that's. It's shallow. It serves its own purpose. Somebody doing that is. They're trying to gain something for themselves.
But when, like, he's faithful are the wounds of a friend, right? Like, we can call each other out and be like, oof.
It's not like. It's that you get that, like, condemned feeling of like, oh, my gosh, you're right.
And it might hurt. And you might even. Might even feel a little defensive. Like, no. Oh, yeah, no, they're right for sure. But that's a friend.
So I just left that piece of scripture. I wanted to share that.
[00:55:31] Speaker A: It's beautiful.
[00:55:32] Speaker B: Did you have any last little nuggets? We gotta get in there.
[00:55:35] Speaker A: Do I have a nice nugget?
Just like, some. Some things to leave people with that they can use in their friendships. And we'll end with this. To speak truth and grace and to carry each other's burdens really need to be able to do that in godly friendships.
And this is one that I want to say for us. May our friendship be a testimony to the goodness and faithfulness of God.
[00:56:02] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:56:03] Speaker A: All right.
I love that so much. And to finish. That your spirit will guide. Or that. Yeah, I want. Okay, now I can't talk now. That it's the end.
That God's spirit will guide each listener to build deeper. God honoring friendships.
[00:56:19] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:56:19] Speaker A: That's what I wanna have this episode be for them.
[00:56:23] Speaker B: That's our prayer for this episode to anybody listening.
[00:56:26] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:56:27] Speaker B: Amen.
[00:56:28] Speaker A: Amen.
[00:56:29] Speaker B: Okay, if you are here for episode three, we thank you and we hope that you listened to the end. You heard our prayer for you. That we hope that you build godly relationship and grow in friendship and honor and glorify the Lord with your life and with the relationships around you. Don't forget to, like, subscribe and we'll see you next time.
